Welty Y-Chromosome Study:
The paternal ancestry and current results for our participants are shown below. Please click on the bold, blue, underlined text, for more genealogical info on each of our participants. Please be sure to scroll to the bottom of this page for further details on the results. We are interested in recruiting anyone with the surname of Welty, Weldy, Wälti, and close spelling variants. If you would like to participate, please email me, Brian Hamman, at [email protected] ; or if you are all ready to sign up, simply go to the following link: https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=V36422&special=true
Last updated 27-Jan-2015
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Number of STRs at Each Y-Chromosome Marker/DYS* |
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Hga
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Earliest Proven Welty Ancestor/Patrilineage** |
3 9 3
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3 9 0
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1 9
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3 9 1
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3 8 5 a |
3 8 5 b |
4 2 6 |
3 8 8
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4 3 9
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3 8 9 -1 |
3 9 2
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3 8 9 -2 |
4 5 8 |
4 5 9 a |
4 5 9 b |
4 5 5
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4 5 4 |
4 4 7
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4 3 7 |
4 4 8 |
4 4 9
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4 6 4 a |
4 6 4 b |
4 6 4 c |
4 6 4 d |
4 6 0 |
GA T A H 4 |
Y C A II a |
Y C A II b |
4 5 6 |
6 0 7
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5 7 6 |
5 7 0 |
C D Y a |
C D Y b |
4 4 2 |
4 3 8 |
38 to 67 ?? |
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Descendant of John Welty Born in 1827, York Co., Pennsylvania (unique Haplogroup R1b) |
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19175 |
R1b1a2 |
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23 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
18 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
26 |
14 |
19 |
29 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
18 |
11 |
11 |
18 |
23 |
16 |
15 |
18 |
18 |
36 |
41 |
11 |
12 |
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Descendants of Welty Immigrants from 1700s Edenkoben, Germany (unique R1b) |
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113729 |
R1b1a2 |
John Jacob Welty (Henry2Lewis3)/ |
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24 |
14 |
12 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
17 |
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10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
20 |
31 |
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17 |
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123547 |
R1b1a2 |
John Jacob Welty (Henry2 Lewis3)/ |
13 |
24 |
14 |
12 |
11 |
15 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
20 |
31 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
18 |
11 |
11 |
21 |
23 |
16 |
15 |
15 |
18 |
36 |
38 |
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12 |
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46885 |
R1b1a2 |
John Jacob Welty (Henry2John3)/ |
13 |
24 |
14 |
12 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
20 |
31 |
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17 |
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94256 |
R1b1a2 |
John Jacob Welty (Frederick2)/b. 1710 Edenkoben, Germany(?);d. ~1773, Chester Co., Pennsylvania |
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24 |
14 |
12 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
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14 |
29 |
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94578 |
R1b1a2 |
John Jacob Welty (Johannes2)/b. 1710 Edenkoben, Germany(?); |
13 |
24 |
14 |
12 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
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98367 |
R1b1a2 |
Philip Jacob Welty (Michael2) / |
13 |
24 |
14 |
12 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
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103000 |
R1b1a2 |
Daniel Welty/ |
13 |
24 |
14 |
12 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
20 |
33 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
17 |
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346970 |
R1b1a2 |
Jacob Welday/ |
13 |
24 |
14 |
12 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
29 |
16 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
24 |
15 |
20 |
31 |
15 |
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17 |
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Unique R1b Welty Line of 1600s Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany |
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175840 |
R1b1a2 |
Franciscus Weltin/Welty / |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
30 |
15 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
23 |
15 |
20 |
30 |
15 |
15 |
17 |
17 |
11 |
11 |
19 |
24 |
17 |
15 |
17 |
17 |
36 |
40 |
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Discrepancy for R1b Welty Lines of Early 1700s Goochland Co., Virginia |
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SMGF #1 |
R1b1a2 |
William Weldy/ |
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24 |
15 |
10 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
12 |
13 |
13 |
30 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
22 |
30 |
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17 |
18 |
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367336 |
R1b1a2 |
William Weldy/18th Century Goochland Co., Virginia |
13 |
24 |
14 |
10 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
12 |
10 |
13 |
13 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
15 |
20 |
28 |
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17 |
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Unique R1b Welty Line from France |
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N- 53884 |
R1b1a2 |
Marcel Welty/b. 1889, Clichy, France |
13 |
24 |
14 |
11 |
11 |
14 |
13 |
12 |
12 |
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28 |
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Descendant of John Welty of 1783 York Co., Pennsylvania (unique haplogroup R1a) |
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43635 |
R1a |
John Welty (George2, Peter3, Elza4) / |
13 |
25 |
16 |
10 |
11 |
16 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
23 |
14 |
20 |
32 |
12 12 |
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15 15 |
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161351 |
R1a |
John Welty (George2, Peter3, George4) /m. 1783, York Co., Pennsylvania, to Margaret Ilgenfritz |
13 |
25 |
16 |
10 |
11 |
16 |
12 |
12 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
29 |
17 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
23 |
14 |
20 |
32 |
12 |
15 |
15 15 |
16 16 |
11 |
12 |
19 |
23 |
16 |
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18 |
19 |
34 |
41 |
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11 |
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Exact Match of Welty Lines Belonging to Haplogroup I2b (click here for more details on this Welty clan) |
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150295 |
I2b1 |
Peter Welty (Abraham2)/ |
14 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
30 |
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81597 |
I2b1 |
Peter Welty (John2, Peter3)/ |
14 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
30 |
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90601 |
I2b1 |
Peter Welty (John2, Jacob3)/ |
14 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
30 |
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23153 |
I2b1 |
Peter Welty (John2, John3)/ |
14 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
30 |
14 |
8 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
20 |
27 |
11 |
14 |
14 |
16 |
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118941 |
I2b1 |
Christian Welty/ |
14 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
30 |
14 |
8 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
20 |
27 |
11 |
14 |
14 |
16 |
10 |
10 |
19 |
21 |
15 |
14 |
17 |
18 |
35 |
37 |
12 |
10 |
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73277 |
I2b1 |
Ulrich Wälti (Christen2, Michel3) /b. 1573, Rüderswil, Canton Bern, |
14 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
30 |
14 |
8 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
20 |
27 |
11 |
14 |
14 |
16 |
10 |
10 |
19 |
21 |
15 |
14 |
17 |
18 |
35 |
37 |
12 |
10 |
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E14742 |
I2b1 |
Ulrich Wälti (Christen 2, Hans3) /b. 1573, Rüderswil, Canton Bern, |
14 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
30 |
14 |
8 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
20 |
27 |
11 |
14 |
14 |
16 |
10 |
10 |
19 |
21 |
15 |
14 |
17 |
18 |
35 |
37 |
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10 |
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37601 |
I2b1 |
Niklaus Wälti (John2, John3)/ Basel, Switzerland |
14 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
30 |
14 |
8 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
20 |
27 |
11 |
14 |
14 |
16 |
10 |
10 |
19 |
21 |
15 |
14 |
17 |
18 |
34 |
37 |
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10 |
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191372 |
I2b1 |
Niklaus Wälti (John2, Ulrich3, Ephraim4) / |
14 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
30 |
14 |
8 |
10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
20 |
27 |
11 |
14 |
14 |
16 |
10 |
10 |
19 |
21 |
15 |
14 |
17 |
18 |
35 |
37 |
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10 |
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133685 |
I2b1 |
Niklaus Wälti (John2, Ulrich3, Levi4) / |
14 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
30 |
14 |
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10 |
11 |
11 |
25 |
14 |
20 |
27 |
11 |
14 |
14 |
16 |
10 |
10 |
19 |
21 |
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14 |
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18 |
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37 |
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10 |
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N7441 |
I2b1 |
Niklaus Wälti (John2, Frederick3)/ |
14 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
30 |
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N- 21639 |
I2b1 |
Ulrich Wälti (Peter2)/ |
14 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
30 |
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273847 |
I2b1 |
Christian Welty/ |
14 |
23 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
14 |
12 |
30 |
14 |
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10 |
11 |
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25 |
14 |
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27 |
11 |
14 |
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16 |
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19 |
21 |
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18 |
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A Wälti Line Belonging to Haplogroup I1 |
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44223 |
I1 |
Hans Wälti / |
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22 |
14 |
10 |
13 |
14 |
11 |
14 |
11 |
12 |
11 |
28 |
15 |
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11 |
23 |
16 |
20 |
27 |
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14 |
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16 |
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10 |
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21 |
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A Welti Line Belonging to Haplogroup I1 |
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E4451 |
I1 |
Hans Heinrich Welti/b. 1586, Zurzach, Schweiz |
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22 |
15 |
10 |
13 |
14 |
11 |
14 |
11 |
12 |
11 |
28 |
15 |
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11 |
23 |
16 |
20 |
29 |
12 |
12 |
15 |
15 |
10 |
11 |
19 |
21 |
14 |
14 |
16 |
21 |
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39 |
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A Welty Line Belonging to Haplogroup I1 |
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102132 |
I1 |
George Wolfgang Weldy (Jacob2)/ |
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22 |
14 |
10 |
13 |
14 |
11 |
14 |
11 |
12 |
11 |
28 |
16 |
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11 |
23 |
16 |
20 |
29 |
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16 |
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10 |
19 |
21 |
14 |
14 |
17 |
20 |
36 |
36 |
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SMGF-2 152399 |
I1 |
Henry Welty/ |
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22 |
14 |
10 |
13 |
14 |
11 |
14 |
11 |
12 |
11 |
28 |
16 |
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11 |
23 |
16 |
20 |
29 |
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13 |
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16 |
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10 |
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21 |
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14 |
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20 |
36 |
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A Unique Wälti Line Belonging to Haplogroup G2a3b, Traced Back to Mid-1500s Switzerland |
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161609 |
G2a3b1- a2a |
Johann Gottlieb Wälti (Welty)/ |
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22 |
15 |
10 |
14 |
15 |
11 |
13 |
11 |
12 |
11 |
29 |
16 |
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11 |
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23 |
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21 |
32 |
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14 |
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20 |
21 |
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38 |
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Pending Results |
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George Wolfgang Weldy (Philip2)/ |
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*Faster mutating markers are shown in red. DYS 19 is also known as DYS 394.
aHg = Haplogroup designation. Please see "http://www.brian-hamman.com/ResultsForNicholsSurnameProject.htm" for links and further details about haplogroups and haplotypes. 23153 was originally predicted to belong to haplogroup O2, however, he tested negative for O2 and was later confirmed to belong to haplogroup I; N7441 also confirmed to be haplogroup I, through the National Genographic project. Looking at the Y-STR haplotype for 23153 and N7441, it is likely that this Welty clan belongs to the I2b subgroup most commonly found in Switzerland. Here is an excellent website on Haplogroup I: http://www.northwestanalysis.net/ Information on other haplogroups can be found at http://www.worldfamilies.net/y-haplogroups.htm
Although the first two participants (19175 and 23153) trace their Welty ancestry back to around 1800 of York County, PA, these results show that these are two completely separate Welty lines. A 3rd Welty line (46885) with ties to another Welty line of York County putatively originating in Edenkoben, Germany, was also tested and found to be completely different from the 1st two Welty lines of York County. Finally, a 4th Welty that clearly traces back to the George Weldy who settled near Dover Twp., York Co., PA, is different from the other three lines of York County!!
Participant #23153 is also the same line as the famous writer, Eudora Welty. Although that Welty line matches the Ulrich Welty line (b. 1728) of Switzerland (participants N7441 and 37601), we currently do not know who is their common Welty ancestor; however, since these two different Welty lines match on 25/25 markers, it is likely that their common Welty ancestor is not further back than a couple of generations past Ulrich Welty. Participants 81597 and 90601 are, like 23153, descendants of Peter Welty, the Immigrant. For more information on this large Welty clan, please see the following website: http://www.rpwelty.com
For further details on the early Welty lines of America, please see http://servalstudios.com/antietam/welty/help.html
To see a map of Switzerland that shows locations of earliest patrilineages, please click here.
